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They left out Noel. Noel!

TV Squad counts down the 10 greatest (or TV Squad's opinion of the 10 greatest) West Wing episodes here:

Best West Wing Episodes of All Time

Thoughts? Opinions? You already know what I think -- They left out "Noel," therefore this list is invalid. (However, I will admit that I completely agree with the top three.)

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tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 01:37 am (UTC)
Any list that favors "Shutdown" over "Election Day: Part II" or any of the Debora Cahn episodes has serious issues.

Oh, and in a show of solidarity: They left off "Noel"!

;-)
13_pines
Nov. 12th, 2010 01:56 am (UTC)
I actually like "Shutdown." It's one of my favorite episodes of season 5. I would've liked to have seen "The Supremes" on the list, though.
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:16 am (UTC)
"Shutdown" isn't bad. It's one of the best episodes of Season 5. But IMO it is nowhere near one of the 10 best.
13_pines
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:36 am (UTC)
Maybe not 10 best, but it would be in my top 20.
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:37 am (UTC)
I can respect that. :-)

I suppose we're obligated to come up with our own top-10 lists, aren't we? :)
13_pines
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:41 am (UTC)
I suppose we're obligated to come up with our own top-10 lists, aren't we?

Well, of course!
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 01:47 am (UTC)
Plus, they left out "In The Shadow of Two Gunmen." The two hours I spent watching that episode the first time constitute one of my most rewarding, if not the most rewarding, TV-watching experiences I've had.

Needless to say, I take issue with its exclusion. :)
13_pines
Nov. 12th, 2010 01:59 am (UTC)
Oh, that's what they left out! I knew there was a major episode missing...ITSOTG definitely needs to be on this list.
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:17 am (UTC)
I know best-of lists are inherently subjective. But I'd be surprised if a sampling of 100 hardcore TWW fans produced even a handful lists that included "Shutdown" and excluded "Noel" or ITSOTG.
13_pines
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:39 am (UTC)
I doubt you could find ONE list that excluded either Noel or ITSOTG. I'm pretty sure you have to include at least one of those eps or you lose your fangirl/fanboy card. ;-)
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 02:42 am (UTC)
Word.
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 03:17 am (UTC)
Tom's Top 10
1. Two Cathedrals
2. In The Shadow of Two Gunmen, Parts I-II (What? It was a 2-hour episode, right?)
3. Bartlet For America
4. 17 People
5. Take This Sabbath Day
6. Election Day: Part II
7. Drought Conditions
8. Commencement
9. Noel
10. In Excelsis Deo

13_pines
Nov. 12th, 2010 03:44 am (UTC)
Re: Tom's Top 10
Excellent list.

1. Two Cathedrals
2. Noel
3. 17 People
4. Bartlet For America
5. In The Shadow of Two Gunmen (I & II)
6. In Excelsis Deo
7. The Stackhouse Filibuster
8. Posse Comitatus
9. Holy Night
10. The Cold

ETA - Honorable Mention: Manchester, Parts I & II because they were the first two episodes I ever watched.

Edited at 2010-11-12 03:46 am (UTC)
tomfoolery815
Nov. 12th, 2010 04:11 am (UTC)
Re: Tom's Top 10
(I declare that we can suspend AP style for the purposes of this discussion. :-)

I thought about The Cold for a bit. While that is a much-beloved episode, and a fine one, it lands somewhere in the 11-20 range for me.

Stackhouse is a great choice! There are so many episodes from the first two seasons that could make the cut: Somebody's Going to Emergency; 18th and Potomac; Bartlet's Third State of the Union (either part, really); What Kind of Day Has It Been; Let Bartlet Be Bartlet.

I also really like H.Con 172 from Season 3. Bartlet For America was amazing, of course, but the storyline wasn't resolved there. I think H.Con 172 is underappreciated because while it's quite good, it's an unavoidable letdown after all the brilliance in BFA.
13_pines
Nov. 13th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
Re: Tom's Top 10
Yeah, The Cold barely made my list...it was a tough call.

I agree about H.Con 172. It's one of those episodes people tend to forget about, but it's very well done. I also love Ways & Means and War Crimes from season 3. Oh, and Guns Not Butter from season 4...and...well, I could go on and on!
tomfoolery815
Nov. 13th, 2010 01:30 am (UTC)
Re: Tom's Top 10
Ways and Means and War Crimes are strong episodes, too.

If you put Isaac and Ishmael aside -- and Sorkin told us it was a standalone episode, so we can and, IMO, should -- I think it's a really strong run from 17 People right through H.Con 172. I thought the quality dropped a bit in the second half of Season 3, but I have a higher opinion of Posse Comitatus than I did when I first saw it.
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